Plinking?? Well kinda.. Depends on your point of view

[Shadow]

For all you current or ex-Military Shooters out there. Take a look at the following picture. Then see if you can come up with the answers to a little quiz.



Questions - Feel free to be creative in your answers.
1) What would you think these (fill in with your own word) are doin?
2) How far away are the targets of opportunity, In YARDS?
3) Would you take the shot? [Send the MAIL?]
4) Who would you shoot first & why?
5) Assume you aren't glassing with a ultra precision rifle - where would you shoot your first target?? IF YOU took the shot..

Will provide some feedback ...if anyone is interested...

[DEDMNKY]

OK

Answer number one---- looks like they could be in a grave yard maybe doesn't look like they are planting an ied or anything to many people standing around maybe they are up to no good.

Answer number two---- Now don't think i'm an idiot or anything i was never in the millitary or anything like that and not sure what the magnification of the scope is but i would say they are about 100 to 125 yards out.

Answer number three----Only if i could get away with it like if they were burying weapons or something.

Answer number four----I would shoot the guy in dark blue shirt on the right mainly because of his close proximity to the guy next to him so i might get two for the price of one.

Answer number five---- i would pry shot center mass on him even though he is turned sideways a little bit.



I hope you guys don't think i'm crazy with my answers if i was soldier maybe i could answer better. Anyway how did i do shadow?

[Shadow]

Well Dedmnky - not bad actually for someone without formal training. Don't fret tho.

A couple of hints.....
1) The only information available is what you see thru the scope. OK... like I said, it's not an ultra precision rifle, but the scope is.... I guess I should have mentioned this in the first post. Sooo... check out the scope... then see hint #2.
2) You have to do a little math (in your head, or whatever) to get the range correct.
3) Part of the training, is not just being able to shoot well, but being able to assess the situation and do the right thing. The last decision, is "do I take the shot(s)? You have solve the other issues before you decide.

I'll wait a few days to see what others come up with. It may be interesting to see how others view the "problem".

I'm certain someone will "nail it", given all the "wizards" we have lurking...

[DEDMNKY]

I was worried i was way of on my assesment of the situation.But i will be interested to see what everyone else puts also.

I can see what you mean about using the info just in the picture to judge the situation and to determine what your next move is.

[paulyfly]

OK, I am not ex-military cuz they didn't want me. (Kinda blindish) But here goes nothin...

1. no way to say what they are doing for sure.
a-if it's a war zone and they are bad guys, they could be planting mines/ied's
b-on the other hand, they could be good guys exhuming bodies, maybe archaeologists?

2. I estimate around 750 yrds.

3. Assuming a .308, it should be a doable shot.

4. I would go for the guy in the dark shirt, since a miss would still probably be a hit.

5. Mid chest (center-mass)

I don't know....I give up! lol

paulyfly

[PRE-EMPTIVE STRIKE]

Ok, keep in mind, I'm with DEDMNKY, no current or ex-Military whatsoever . . . . . and it'll probably show, but what the heck, I'm game

1. As far as what they are doing, with just a still snap shot it's very hard to tell (proably this is where the Military skills come in), but there's too many of them to be planting an ied, they don't seem particularly concerned about anyone watching them in full daylight. Could be digging up a cache of weapons.

2. I would guess they are about 600 yds away

3. I wouldn't take the shot because my untrained eyes do not see any weapons, bombs, or threats. I don't see any digging tools, but that's alot of dirt piled up there, but if they did dig up all that dirt, they're probably finished and whatever they used could be laying down on the other side of the dirt mound.

4. If I had to shoot one of them because they're up to no good, whoever the guy is bending over seems to know what he's doing and could be the one assembling the bomb/weapon, he's my first shot

5. If it's not an ultra precision weapon, then we may be talking about a semi-auto .308 which would be effective at that range, but anything over 800 yds, forget about it

Alright Shadow, now that you had me looking at this D*MN picture all night, tell me how I did

[Stitch]

As with others I have no military experience.

1) Suspicious, would need to watch the whole encounter and just seeing this would have no choice but to say they are hostile unless noted other wise.
2) Size of Target (yards)*1000/Size of target in Mils = Range in yards
2 (1000)/9 = 222 yards, if I got the mils and the height right fire for effect
3) Yes, if permitted by the ROE.
4) The Gentleman in the White looks like the man in charge.
5) Call in a Predator stike to take care of the whole lot.

[Barrett Optics]

1. Laying the foundation for a house, messing with a grave, burying an IED.

2. Assuming the scope is either first-focal plane -or- is set to the correct power for range estimation I'd say they are 270 yards away. (Average of three readings 250, 270 & 300 on three different target areas)

3. Depends on the situation, my orders and ROE

4. Choice of these three:

Whichever one was determined to be the leader
The greatest threat
The farthest one from me.

5. High center chest. Aiming point based on target angle to me. All of these guys are in some form of facing away.

[Fiddler's Green]

1) I would say that the secret to determining the activity are the rectangles and concrete curbing in the scene.
2) Range to the target is 7401 miles (13173780 yards) from my house in Texas. However, only about 272 yards from the observer.
3) No shoot unless directed otherwise. My recommendation is no shoot.
4) I would recommend starting with the TOTUS.
5) I'm sorry, where is Hillary today?

[Shadow]

That's funny.....Hillary is looking for barry (likely). Barry is working on his speaking skills.



BTW - some of you are pretty much spot on with the ranging portion. Those that did the math, likely already know. I'm curious to see what some of the others may come up with.

[paulyfly]

I realized some time after posting that I screwed up and used MOA instead of mils. I need to revise my original estimate of 750 yrds to 750/3.6=let's call it around 210 yrds. Roughly....me thinks. I must have been too tired last night. <cough, cough>



paulyfly

[DEDMNKY]

Yeah i originally said 100 to 125 but i think it's mor like 200 to 225yards i think i redid my math right.

[PRE-EMPTIVE STRIKE]

Oh crap, you know, I had originally had it at 250 yds, I guesstimated from the top of his head (the guy in the cross hairs) to mid body was approx. 3ft and I had counted off 4 mils, which gave me 250.

For some reason, I thought there was something hidden in Shadows words about it being an ultra precision scope, but not the rifle, so I changed my mind and my calcs

Will everyone else on the forum please answer this question so that Shadow can give us the full picture, I can't take another night of waiting

[Shadow]

Will everyone else on the forum please answer this question so that Shadow can give us the full picture, I can't take another night of waiting

OK, I'll post my opinion(s), observations & calculation tomorrow. I'm finding the responses by you guys very informative, so I'll wait one more day - in case some others want to play....

Note: For the sake of honest intentions, I'll post my reply, based on one I typed up before I started this thread. So, it'll be true to my original assessment, rather than using any intelligence any of you offered up.

It is really, after all, just a little exercise on thought processes - since none of us were actually there and have only the photo to analyze the scenario.

[DEDMNKY]

I can't wait to see how close we are. I wanna know how close i am since i am not military or ex millitary i just love to shoot.